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Bug 1595165 - Babel warning: No hyphenation patterns were preloaded for the language `French'/`German'/?
Summary: Babel warning: No hyphenation patterns were preloaded for the language `Frenc...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: texlive
Version: 28
Hardware: Unspecified
OS: Unspecified
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Tom "spot" Callaway
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Depends On:
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Reported: 2018-06-26 09:33 UTC by Skippy
Modified: 2019-01-07 11:09 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2018-11-26 20:31:37 UTC

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Description Skippy 2018-06-26 09:33:14 UTC
As the title says, babel can't find French hyphenation patterns.  There is no such warning for English, but I tested with German and it has the same issue.

Both texlive-babel-french and texlive-hyphen-french are installed.  I tried running `fmtutil -sys -all` as suggested on the web, and also `texhash`, but it didn't help.

Below is the end of /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat after installation of texlive-hyphen-french and texlive-hyphen-german :
dumylang        dumyhyph.tex    %for testing a new language.
nohyphenation   zerohyph.tex    %a language with no patterns at all.
french loadhyph-fr.tex
german loadhyph-de-1901.tex
ngerman loadhyph-de-1996.tex
swissgerman loadhyph-de-ch-1901.tex

I thought it might have been a path issue, so I linked loadhyph-*.tex files from /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/loadhyph/ into /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/hyphen/ (then ran again fmtutil and texhash) but it didn't change anything.

Not sure the packages list would be relevant, let me know if you think it is.

Comment 1 Guilherme D. da Fonseca 2018-11-10 11:57:05 UTC
The bug persists on Fedora 29 and I have not found any workaround yet.

I installed all texlive packages including:


I tried running fmtutil-sys -all, fmtutil-sys --refresh, and texhash as root and the problem persists. Anyway, I believe that if anything had to be run to inform latex of the new installed package, the execution should be automated inside the rpm, right?

I will keep trying to find a workaround.

Comment 2 Guilherme D. da Fonseca 2018-11-10 13:19:10 UTC
The problem is only with pdflatex. When I use the latex command to compile to dvi, everything works fine. Therefore, a workaround is to use latex to compile to dvi, followed by dvips and ps2pdf.

Comment 3 Guilherme D. da Fonseca 2018-11-25 16:04:48 UTC
Removing the directory ~/.texlive2018 and using the latest version of texlive solved the problem. This directory has been created by some previous execution of pdflatex (already on Fedora 29, because I installed from scratch), but maybe before the hyphenation packages had been installed. Further tests are needed to determine if the bug persists in the latest version when a user installs the hyphenation packages after ~/.texlive2018 has been created.

Comment 4 Tom "spot" Callaway 2018-11-26 20:31:37 UTC
Closing as NOTABUG, feel free to reopen if you (or anyone) can reproduce on a fresh install.

Comment 5 Víctor R. Ruiz 2019-01-02 00:06:33 UTC
I also have a similar issue with pdflatex, Spanish babel and Fedora 29. These are the packages that I have installed:


I deleted the ~/.texlive2018 directory on my system and run fmtutil-sys -all and fmutil-sys --refresh, but that didn't work.

$ tail -n 6 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat 
dumylang	dumyhyph.tex    %for testing a new language.
nohyphenation	zerohyph.tex    %a language with no patterns at all.
galician loadhyph-gl.tex
catalan loadhyph-ca.tex

After manually adding "spanish loadhyph-es.tex" line to language.dat, the babel warning is gone and hyphenation in Spanish works fine.

Comment 6 Tom "spot" Callaway 2019-01-02 17:18:57 UTC
This is weird. The texlive-hyphen-spanish package has this %post scriptlet:

%post hyphen-spanish
if [ $1 -gt 0 ] ; then
sed -i '/spanish.*/d' %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat
echo "spanish loadhyph-es.tex" >> %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat
sed -i '/=espanol/d' %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat
echo "=espanol" >> %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat
sed -i '/\\addlanguage{spanish}.*/d' %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def
echo "\addlanguage{spanish}{loadhyph-es.tex}{}{2}{2}" >> %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def
sed -i '/\\addlanguage{espanol}.*/d' %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def
echo "\addlanguage{espanol}{loadhyph-es.tex}{}{2}{2}" >> %{_texdir}/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.def

In plain language, this means that if texlive-hyphen-spanish is installed or upgraded, it should be putting "spanish loadhyph-es.tex" into /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.dat.

I tested this on my local Fedora 29 system, which did not have texlive-hyphen-spanish installed (and had no entry for spanish in language.dat). After installing texlive-hyphen-spanish via dnf, I saw two new lines in language.dat (at the bottom):

spanish loadhyph-es.tex


So basically, I'm not sure how the scriptlet did not get run for you, unless you installed that package in an odd way (or did something like --noscripts when installing it).

Comment 7 raquin 2019-01-07 11:09:26 UTC

I use Fedora 29. I do have the following lines in my language.dat file:

french loadhyph-fr.tex

but giving the "french" argument to polyglossia reproduces the bug. However, when I use "francais", the hyphenation patterns are correctly loaded (but polyglossia doesn't load `gloss-french.ldf`, and tries to load `gloss-francais.ldf` instead).

It's also a bug for babel, but giving "francais" as an argument doesn't fix it.

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