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Bug 158209 - Session should not care about user's preferences.
Summary: Session should not care about user's preferences.
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: initscripts
Version: 3
Hardware: i386
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Bill Nottingham
QA Contact: Brock Organ
Depends On:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2005-05-19 16:21 UTC by oll
Modified: 2014-03-17 02:54 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Doc Type: Bug Fix
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Last Closed: 2005-05-19 16:24:25 UTC

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Description oll 2005-05-19 16:21:01 UTC
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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4

Description of problem:
Graphical sessions (gnome-session) should not depend on users preferences.
a bad PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LANG makes things unstable.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

How reproducible:

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Be a new user (with no root privileges) with a virgin home directory

2.Create a lib directory in your home (or wherever else)

3.Do this following stupid thing :
cp /lib/ ~/lib/

4.put this in your .cshrc 
setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ~/lib
(or export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/lib in your .bashrc)

5. Try to log-on

Actual Results:  Of course , gnome won't start. 

Expected Results:  Environment should start even if, obviously, almost everything you will next try to run in a terminal won't work.

Additional info:

sessions are runned this way :
-/bin/tcsh -c /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
So it will source .cshrc before running it (and then use the stupid LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
I know it has advantages : session take cares of users preferences.

Another solution would be to be sure that EVERY library and EVERY binaries have RPATH set to /lib:/usr/lib : but that's not the case in Fedora i386.

In a developper's environment (where I work), I can't oblige check every PATH nor LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Comment 1 Bill Nottingham 2005-05-19 16:24:25 UTC
Changing this could potentially break similar system-level customizations, which
would be worse. I think the safer answer is just not to break your local
configuration in that way.

Comment 2 oll 2005-05-19 17:43:28 UTC
It was of course an extreme example.
But there is more vicious one. ( some things like /opt/Devel/mywork/xml/lib in

We have dozens of developpers there which are constaintly changing their
LD_LIBRARY_PATH/PATH,LC_ALL and so one. I can't be sure everybody has not forgot
to put /lib:/usr/lib before anything else in the LIBRARY_PATH

They perfectly accept having troubles running applications from command line (in
gnome terminal).
But they really don't understand why it causes sytem crash or freeze. Mainly
come from Solaris/CDE and they simply don't understand.

No, I repeat myself , but the stability of the system MUST NOT depend of users
preferences (variables set).

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