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Bug 1358420 - KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: "No such object path '/modules/ktimezoned'"
Summary: KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: "No such object...
Alias: None
Product: Fedora
Classification: Fedora
Component: kdepim
Version: 24
Hardware: x86_64
OS: Linux
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ngo Than
QA Contact: Fedora Extras Quality Assurance
Depends On:
TreeView+ depends on / blocked
Reported: 2016-07-20 15:59 UTC by JP Jung
Modified: 2017-08-08 15:44 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Last Closed: 2017-08-08 15:44:25 UTC

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KDE System Settings screen shot (deleted)
2016-07-20 17:11 UTC, JP Jung
no flags Details

Description JP Jung 2016-07-20 15:59:24 UTC
Description of problem:
Time zone support is missing in Korganizer / Kalarm since upgrading to F23 from F23. Starting kalarm from command line provides:

$ kalarm
log_kidentitymanagement: IdentityManager: There was no default identity. Marking first one as default.
KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "No such object path '/modules/ktimezoned'" 

No time zone information obtained from ktimezoned
Couldn't start kuiserver from org.kde.kuiserver.service: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown", "The name org.kde.kuiserver was not provided by any .service files")
akonadicore_log: not referenced  47
akonadicore_log: not referenced  48
Shortcut for action  "newDisplay" "New Display Alarm" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Shortcut for action  "newCommand" "New Command Alarm" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Shortcut for action  "newEmail" "New Email Alarm" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Shortcut for action  "newAudio" "New Audio Alarm" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Shortcut for action  "edit_undo" "&Undo" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Shortcut for action  "edit_redo" "Re&do" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
QSystemTrayIcon::setVisible: No Icon set

In korganizer all my events are present but off by 4 hours as UTC time is used but events are all EST time, I am facing the same issue as in kalarm.

This was working perfectly in F23, timezone support was proper in korginizer / kalarm.

I had a base F23 Gnome, installed only korganizer package & dependancies, not a full KDE desktop support. Upgrading to F24 broke timezone support in these 2 KDE applications.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
kalarm 2.11.7-5ak
KDE Frameworks 5.23.0
Qt 5.6.1 (built against 5.6.0)

How reproducible:
Start kalarm from command line, see the error message, get a pop up error that time zone support is missing.

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Run kalarm from command line

Actual results:
kalarm starts with an error message:

Time zones are not accessible: KAlarm will use the UTC time zone.
(The KDE time zone service is not available: check that ktimezoned is installed.)

Time is off by 4 hours compared to EST, using UTC

Expected results:
Timezone is honoured and the time is proper EST time.

Additional info:

Comment 1 Rex Dieter 2016-07-20 16:19:41 UTC
rpm -q kalarm korganizer

Comment 2 JP Jung 2016-07-20 16:34:12 UTC
$ rpm -q kalarm korganizer

Thank you.

Comment 3 Rex Dieter 2016-07-20 16:44:48 UTC
Thanks, and next, please try running systemsettings5:
Startup&Shutdown -> Background Services->Startup Services
and look for "Time Zone", what is listed under "Use" and "Running" columns?  It should be "checked", "Running" respectfully.

Comment 4 JP Jung 2016-07-20 17:11:15 UTC
Created attachment 1182185 [details]
KDE System Settings screen shot

Comment 5 JP Jung 2016-07-20 17:12:32 UTC

Well, it was not installed:

bash: systemsettings5: command not found...
Install package 'plasma-systemsettings' to provide command 'systemsettings5'? [N/y] y

 * Waiting in queue... 
 * Loading list of packages.... 
The following packages have to be installed:
 kde-cli-tools-5.6.5-1.fc24.x86_64	Tools based on KDE Frameworks 5 to better interact with the system
 kdesu-1:5.6.5-1.fc24.x86_64	Runs a program with elevated privileges
 kf5-kdesu-5.23.0-1.fc24.x86_64	KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 3 integration with su
 kf5-khtml-5.23.0-1.fc24.x86_64	KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 4 solution with KHTML, a HTML rendering engine
 kf5-kjs-5.23.0-1.fc24.x86_64	KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 3 functional module with JavaScript interpreter
 kf5-kpty-5.23.0-1.fc24.x86_64	KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 module providing Pty abstraction
 plasma-systemsettings-5.6.5-1.fc24.x86_64	KDE System Settings application
Proceed with changes? [N/y] y

Issue now, I have no Startup & Shutdown section in it. See the attached image. Likely missing more KDE components?

Thank you.

 * Waiting in queue... 
 * Waiting for authentication... 
 * Waiting in queue... 
 * Downloading packages... 
 * Requesting data... 
 * Testing changes... 
 * Installing packages... 

So now I have the KDE System Settings pannel, but it has no Startup/Shutdown section. I would think I miss packages that were not required in F23 and are now required in F24.

Thank you.

Comment 6 Rex Dieter 2016-07-20 17:24:25 UTC
OK, sorry, I had naively assumed you were using Plasma.

dnf install plasma-workspace

will likely fix things.  though that whole thing is probably a too heavy dependency to expect all users of korganizer to install, so I'll investigate more.

Comment 7 JP Jung 2016-07-20 17:30:59 UTC
No, I use Gnome but consider KOrginizer the best calendar application on Linux.

If I do that, it's not that bad:

Last metadata expiration check: 0:58:16 ago on Wed Jul 20 12:29:10 2016.
Dependencies resolved.
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Transaction Summary
Install  69 Packages

Total download size: 65 M
Installed size: 173 M
Is this ok [y/N]: N
Operation aborted.

Like 200MB in size. I'll hold off on this for now, see if I can fix my issue with less components (or if you come back with some ideas). I have to spin a clean F24 and add korganizer to it, see if I can reproduce the issue, or if it does install the time zone support properly.

Thank you

Comment 8 JP Jung 2016-07-20 21:08:24 UTC

I confirm the issue on a clean F24 (default install CD, i.e. Gnome based), did a: 
dnf install korganizer then start organizer gives:

KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "No such object path '/modules/ktimezoned'" 

No time zone information obtained from ktimezoned

Adding systemsettings5 and dependancies (dnf install plasma-systemsettings) allow to launch the KDE Control Panel, but it lacks the Startup/Shutdown entry, the display is exactly the same as the attached image "KDE System Settings screen shot".

Thank you.

Comment 9 Timothy M. Butterworth 2016-09-16 19:34:50 UTC
I have had the same problem on F24 workstation with Plasma also install and update to F25. Kalarm causes KDE to stall excessively during login.

KDE Settings show Time Zone is enabled.

DNF says there is no package ktimezoned available for install. Plasma is mostly unusable at first logon before changing all settings.

Comment 10 Timothy M. Butterworth 2016-09-16 19:36:56 UTC
Package dependencies for KDE applications and DNF group Plasma default settings are very poorly implemented.

Comment 11 Rex Dieter 2016-09-17 13:04:18 UTC
What you describe is different than this bug (missing ktimezoned on DE's other than plasma)

That said, if you have some constructive criticism on how to make the "Plasma is mostly unuable at first logon" situation better, I'd love to hear it.  Ideally, not in bz though, but somewhere to allow better discussion like our mailing list:

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